Lloyd - getting him to kidnap Dylan

Lloyd - Has agents who calls with boxes, sends Trevor messages daily, in news articles using their old code on the TV, workmanlike, goes to sporting events and other places without raising suspicion, convinced Trevor to assist abduction or was he the instigator?

Lloyd - Only encountered in the wild, in separate institutions, met on bus, reinternment if caught, 'what the fuck are you doing' and ran off bus born of fear.